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is aviation safety expert peter goelz, a former managing director of the n.t.s.b. from 1959 to 2000. peter goelz, what are your principal concerns as you look at what happened in this crash. >> well, i think chairman hersman knows what she's talking about. this is going to be looked at for years to come as kind of a classic crew resource issue. how could you have two well trained crew members allowing their approach speed to bleed off to such a low level that the aircraft's stall warning goes off? it is really quite inexplicable. >> woodruff: literally inexplicable. are you saying there's no explanation for why that would have happened? >> well, you have two trained people. there's three things you need to do. you need to watch your speed. you need to watch your altitude. watch your attitude. this was not just a slight degradation of speed. this was down to 100 knots. 34 knots below their approach speed. it really is... if the flying pilot was not monitoring it, the nonflying pilot should have been. >> woodruff: and when you say that the... and we heard deborah hersman speak about they're
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